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administration is ready to go over the fiscal cliff if the gop doesn't bid on higher taxes. a poll shows nearly half of those ads say it's time to end talks cuts for the wealthy but keep it in place for americans earning $250,000 or less. 32% say the tax cuts should remain in place for everyone. during a broadcast interview yesterday timothy geithner was asked what if republican don't agree to raising taxes? >> is the administration prepared to go over the fiscal cliff? >> oh, absolutely. there's no prospect of an agreement that doesn't involve the tax -- remember, it's 207b8%. remember, all of those americans, too, get a tax cut into that framework on the first $250,000 of their income. >> that said the president and speaker john boehner discussed the budget by phone yesterday. susan mcginnis is in washington with the latest on this game of fiscal chicken. susan, good morning to you. >> right. good morning, terrell. yeah, that phone call does raise the possibility that some serious talks could start soon, but now we learn that a lot of members of congress are heading out on a long weekend, not
the fiscal cliff is raising taxes on those making over $250,000 a year. look at this from quinnipiac university, the question was asked are you okay with that? 65% say they support such a move to avert the fiscal cliff. this is the third poll over the last two weeks to show the same thing, that most americans are okay with raising those taxes on incomes over $250,000 a year. go to the next screen, there's a partisan divide here. this explains why most republicans are dead set against this. democrats are fine with that move. independents as well. but only a minority of republicans are okay with raising taxes on those making over $250,000 a year. what don't republicans like? they are fine with cutting spending, but they don't want entitlements touched. are you okay with raising the eligibility for medicare going up from 65 to 67? 51% opposed that. >> big news yesterday coming out yesterday from senator deminut. >> this will give me the opportunity to help take our case to the american people and to translate our policies into real ideas. >> so you think you can be more influential with
the white house is absolutely willing to go over the fiscal cliff if the gop doesn't agree to raise taxes on the top 2% of earners. while a handful of republicans appears willing to concede that point, the party's position seems unchangeable. >> speaker boehner took a position i think the day after the campaign that says we're willing to bring in revenue, but we're not willing to increase rates. >> the president says if republicans will concede the point, they could reach a deal within a week. and the presidential business leaders, if republicans drop that opposition, they could agree -- they could make a deal within a week, as we said, but, you know, as we said, the terrell?continues. >> susan, thank you so much. >>> to syria now. cbs has learned that the u.s. has discovered they have prepared chemical weapons that could potentially beused against the opposition. right now there are no indications that any of those chemicals could be fixed on military aircraft. meanwhile the obama administration says essentially countries in the middle east have offered asylum to assad and his family. as
. but if there's no deal and the country goes over that fiscal cliff, taxes go up for everyone, mandatory spending cuts go into effect, a lot of folks are going to say where was the president? he was just re-elected. why couldn't he put together a package, a deal to avoid this disaster? >> i think this is a question of political leadership. and as that poll showed, there's no doubt that the president has the political advantage going into this. but at some point, and i think we're kind of getting close to it, the president has to be able to pivot and to say how do i turn this political advantage into a real policy accomplishment? and, wolf, i don't think you're going to do that with continued campaign style events like we just saw meeting with middle class families. okay. we get that. that occurred during the campaign. the white house has clearly gotten its message out. i think now there has to be a next step. you know, timing is everything in politics. and this is absolutely no different. what i'm getting from talking to some democrats on the hill is i think there's actually a lot of pen
gets to the fiscal cliff. >> reporter: mr. obama's new proposal lowered his request for tax revenue from $1.6 trillion in ten years to $1.4 trillion.trillion on tuesday the white house threw corporate tax reform into the mix, adding it to the already agreed upon push next year for reform of individual tax rates.dismisse boehner's described it as unrealistic and said the tax revenue was "a red herring." the top senate democrat doubted a fiscal cliff deal would be l cli wrapped in time for christmas. >> i think it's going to be extremely difficult to get it done before christmas. >> reporter: speaker boehner is meeting at this hour with house republicans. despite all the gloom the president said he remains confident a fiscal cliff deal will get done. charlie and norah? >> major garrett thank you. nancy pelosi leads the democratseads in the house of representatives. we're pleased to have her with this m us.good good morning. >> good morning. >> where are these negotiations? when they were bargaining over the grand bargain you gave the the president and your caucus did
on one. keep in mind they're the ones trying to do the deal here to avert this fiscal cliff. the tax hikes, the spending cutting scheduled for the first of the week now. join ming me from washington is senator olympia snowe. are you hearing -- what might you be hearing between the president and spirit? >> i think it is optimistic in the sense that at least they have met once again because i think that that is going to be crucial and central to any resolution, to the fiscal cliff crisis. and the more they meet and more that they have these lines of communications opened on a daily basis and their staffs are meeting, the more likely we'll see a conclusion to this issue. but it is regrettable that it is this late in the day, given the uncertainty and the apprehension that it continues to create among the american people, and, of course, both within the markets here and abroad. but i think it is hopeful that they have begun to meet and have some discussions because i think we can breathe a sigh of relief that the lines of communication are open. >> are you breathing that sigh of relief?
, and fighting for people. >> let's focus on taxes for a moment. in the fiscal cliff debate, tax is a big part of that. where do you stand on that if you are anti tax? >> anti tax, but not anti common sense. it's obvious to me what the president is trying to do is the right thing to do. sometimes you have to have revenue in order to fill the hole. that's what president obama is trying to do and he's right on the mark. i support what he's doing. we have to watch spending too. common sense is really what i think americans want and what they believe in. what i believe in. and i think when you apply common sense to any issues, we can have common ground and move forward as a nation, do what's right and have a better future for all of us. >> governor crist, margaret hoover here. what you are saying sounds great, but republicans would say it sounds like political tunism at the cost of principal. you are becoming a democrat because there is no political future for you in florida as anything else. what do you say back to them? >> a lot of cynics in politics. and we recognize that. that's unfortunate. i
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of the year, we would still go over the fiscal cliff. remember, the bush tax cuts are one of the at least stimulative policies in the negotiations. according to the economic policy institute, extending the middle class tax cuts would wipe out only about 11% of the austerity's economic impact. 11%. but all that other stuff, the payroll tax cut, the unemployment insurance, the sequester, all that, that would still be expiring. so come early next year, the economy would likely be entering an austerity-induced recession. markets would be convulsing as they realize our austerity crisis is about to become also a default crisis. and so the economy, as a whole, is going to be going nuts. poll after poll already shows republicans are receiving more blame for the potential failure of the debt talks. and after telling the press they're going to make a strategic decision to use a debt ceiling as more and more dangerous leverage, they're likely going to get blamed for that, too. and that will be much worse in the polls. republicans may believe the white house can be so afraid of default that it would
a deal on the fiscal cliff or else automatic spending cuts and tax hikes will kick in and with the fiscal cliff looming, our consumers feeling at all concerned? christine romans joins us now from new york with that. good morning, christine. >> good morning, ted. first, let me tell you what's going right in the economy for consumers. there's a whole host of things. the job markets, 7.7% unemployment, the lowest in four years. you've got the housing market showing signs of recovery. rising home values in much of the country. gas prices, did you notice? they're down 46 cents over the past couple of months. they're expected to keep going lower and the dow is up 20 points now. the dow is above 1,300 and the s&p 500 is up 12% this year. so, what could go wrong? fiscal cliff. this is something weighing op consumer sentiment and we're starting to see it in the weekly -- look at this -- 39% said it would affect it some. they don't seem to have much faith in congress to fix it and any time except 11th hour and maybe a week into the new year and there's this payroll tax holiday that most people have
edgar, he says i'm not confused about the fiscal cliff, what i'm confused about is what taxes will be raised? >> that's right. well the payroll tax holiday, it was created in 2010, it had a two-year tax extension, it expires on december 31st. this is a 2% payroll tax that all americans were enjoying. if nothing is resolved, your first paycheck in january is going to be 2% lighter. that may not sound like a lot. but you take a person who's makimake $50,000 per year, it's about 1,700 a year. >> i'm going to guess that even if we do leap off the cliff, we'll have some type of a resolution, some type of a deal that will be retroactive back to january 1. but why play with poison like that, right now have to expect that you want that deal done now. >> what are the convinces for tfor -- consequences for military personnel? >> just on the defense sector alone, you're looking at $55 billion in cuts just to the defense budget. you have to look at the ancillary part of this. you look at real estate holdings, homes that are have a close proximity to defense. >> final question for you, tod
dragging its feet. we have a few numbers of days left before we go off the fiscal cliff and taxes are raised for everybody. so speaker boehner knows a caucus, a serious, mature sober leader. he knows what his principles are. he's a principled conservative, a mainstream businessman and knows what the issues are. the house should and is largely trusting him. >> and what do you think about that, hilary? should the democrats trust the president to close the deal behind closed doors? >> i think democrats mostly trust the president. i don't know what mary's talking about that the president has dragged his heels. he's been trying to get congress to deal with this issue for months and months. but having said that, neither of these guys i think have the full faith and credit of their caucuses to do anything and that's what is taking so long. no democrats are pressing on the president to be careful on what he cuts on entitlements and folks like me would like to make sure that the defense cuts, you know, are substantially a part of this package. republicans, you know, are making a big deal o
higher taxes. this fiscal cliff thing, the problem with the republicans, larry, is that they have been boxed in by the democrats into a difficult position where the polls confirm that the public in america believe that the reason that president obama is going to win the debate is because, come the fiscal cliff moment, that if he goes over, that they are going to save the backsides of the wealthy 2% of americans. i probably shouldn't but i do. >> speaking as a reagan conservative, i must say i rather agree with you. probably shouldn't. but i do. i think divided government is very difficult. and there's some principles that speaker boehner is fighting for, with which i actually agree. but i think politically, the risk here for the gop, is they've become the party of rich people. and they give up the middle-class to the democrats. and i think you saw some of that in the presidential election. i don't think that's their intent. i think their tax reform intent is quite sound. but the way this is playing out, i think that's a big risk for them. >> they're becoming the party of rich, white, o
with brooking news on the looming fiscal cliff. for the past few nights we've been telling you about the frustrating lack of progress to avert a deal on automatic tax hikes and spending cuts that kick in less than four weeks from now. poll after poll shows the american people want compromise but there weren't many signs that was going to happen, nothing was getting done. in a cnn/crc poll, 67% said washington officials would behave like spoiled children in the fiscal cliff discussions. only 28% said they would behave like adults. tonight signs that maybe some adult behavior might be prevail and a compromise might be reached. jessica yellen joins us, dana bash and david gergen. what's the latest? >> reporter: they are a long way from a deal, but late today speaker boehner and president obama did speak to one another on the phone. now, this is an important development because it's the first time they've talked in a week about the fiscal cliff. i am told, though, that there was no real progress in negotiations. in this sense there was no breakthrough on that central point of tax rates.
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, he was putting pressure on lawmakers to come to an agreement to avoid the fiscal cliff. it was yet another white house effort to rally support around its approach to the fiscal cliff. joe biden sitting down with seven middle class americans worried about their taxes going up. >> these are hard working, serious americans who are playing by the rules, doing it all right, and struggling already in this economy. >> reporter: jobs numbers, proof the administration says that the president's economic policies are paying off. >> you see it in the retail industry, you see it in transportation. you see it in health care. and you see it in other sectors. you do see a continued movement that continues to show some positive growth. >> reporter: while cautioning the nation's economy is far from a full recovery, administration officials emphasize positive growth, suggesting it puts them in a stronger negotiating position with republicans. one senior administration official told cnn, quote, we shouldn't muck it up by raising taxes on the middle class or playing chicken with the debt ceiling. but o
worried about the fiscal cliff. a walmart survey says customers know about the impending tax increases and spending cuts. and some are cutting back on their spending for the holidays. most retailers depend on this month's sales for their success. and poor results could be disastrous for them. >>> and bank of america customers aren't happy, either. the nation's second-largest bank had its lowest satisfaction score in 11 years. the worst for any major bank, in fact. it's the only one with a grade lower than before the recession. at the other end of the spectrum, though, is jpmorgan chase, whose satisfaction score was up 6%. >>> and 2012 was on track for a record gun sales ahead of last year. the fbi has run 350,000 more of its instant background checks than in all of last year. abc news expects almost 2 million more gun checks just this month. >>> and call it easy bake backlash. a new jersey girl's campaign to make the toy more gender-neutral appears successful. 13-year-old mckenna pope says the easy bake oven should be made in colors other than pink and purple, to appeal to boys like he
's late-night laughs. >> we'd like to announce that we have reach and agreement to avoid the fiscal cliff. in order to get the support of the speaker, i agree there would be no tax increases. i repeat, zero tax increases. now, why would i do that? i mean i won the election. i had the leverage. why give in? well, simply put, i felt sorry for this man. earlier this week i found my way into the congressional cafeteria, and what i do see? john boehner sitting by himself. all alone. not a single member of his party wanted to share his company. he didn't even have any milk to drink because, well, tell them why, john. >> they had taken my milk and thrown it in the garbage. >> these are supposed to be his friends. his colleagues. but even at the hint that the taxes might be raised on his leadership watch, they turn on him. tell them what you found in your office desk. >> oh, i don't -- >> no, no. go ahead. hey, tell them what your so-called friends put in your office desk. >> it was a rubber snake. >> a rubber snake. and did it scare you? >> it did. >> i was so heartbroken to hear this, i said, l
them out of fiscal cliff negotiations. far from frozen, some set of republicans appear to be warming to higher tax rates on households earning more than $250,000. if and only if that leads to benefit cuts in health care entitlements like medicare and medicaid. >> give the president the 2% increase that he's talking about, the right increase on the top 2%, and all of a sudden, the shift goes back to entitlements. >> but house republicans, the key to any fiscal cliff deals remains suspicious. >> the president wants the rates to go up, that doesn't solve the problem. we don't want to be back here in another year, in another ten years answering the same questions. >> reporter: the republican co-chairman of the deficit reduction commission said higher tax rates are inevitable. >> if anybody out there who's, quote, rich doesn't think their taxes go up, the drinks are on me. i'll cover it. >> reporter: mr. obama and house democrats are open to making wealthier taxpayers pay more in medicare taxes but are reluctant to raise, as republicans want, the eligibility for medicare. >> where does a
in the fiscal cliff crisis. it's getting quiet on capitol hill. 21 days remain before the tax hikes and spending cuts kick in, and congress breaks for the holiday, at least they are scheduled to, on friday. this is what you need to know. the president on the road pitching his tax plan to workers at a truck plant in michigan. house speaker boehner were conducting behind the scenes talks with the white house. and the posturing and finger pointing in washington suddenly stopped. we have more from washington. the sounds of silence may be the sounds of progress? >> potentially. we hope so. we don't really know. we're forced to read the tea leaves essentially, john, because neither side is giving details about the substance of discussions. let me read a statement from john boehner's press secretary. "discussions with the white house are taking place, but we have no detail to share about the substance of those conversations. the republican offer made last week remains the republican offer and we continue to wait for the president to identify the spending cuts he's willing to make as part of the balance
in the past, the more difficult it became to find them. >>> we turn now to the fiscal cliff. just 22 days before everyone's taxes go up, every government program is cut. there's a bit of hope that a deal to avoid the consequences could be coming, sparked by the first meeting in weeks between the president and john boehner. jake, what do we know about the meeting? >> reporter: they spoke on the phone on friday and set up a meeting for yesterday. speaker boehner did come here. and though i don't think there's any reason to believe we're really close to a deal, progress has been made, though one side of the talks staaid that that progress is fragile. >> we're getting close to the point, really, by tend of the week, if they're not a lot closer, it might be too hard to do by the end of the year. >> there could be a quick fix solution. republicans agree to keep the tax cuts in place for the 98% of the country. avoid tax cuts for a few month, go take winter break. that would not be a long-term solution but would avert the fiscal cliff. >> hillary clinton's future, talking about her for 2016, are
much. now to the president and the congress and the fiscal cliff. the combination of automatic tax hikes and deep federal spending cuts due to kick in january 1st. that's 24 days away. just over three weeks from now but so far negotiations to find a way around it well they've gone nowhere. we'll talk about that with a former chief of staff to president bill clinton and adviser to president obama and a founder and chairman of the center for american progress which is a washington think tank and he joins us now from our washington bureau. john great to have you this morning. good morning. are we going over this cliff, john? >> i think -- i certainly hope not and i think that people -- there are low level talks again and i think that the president and the speaker need to engage with each other to try to avoid that. but what we need to do for the long run is really to get on a path towards greater fiscal discipline but do it in a way that keeps momentum behind the economy right now, keeps jobs growing. after today or yesterday's job report the worst thing we ca
this report is very important. it's going to be driving the conversation on the fiscal cliff. we only have 25 days until the tax hikes and spending cuts start to take effect. here is the thing. this number came in much better than expected, don. so the bad part about this is that it may not motivate all those politicians on capitol hill as much as it may have, if it came in much weak er. this may not light the fire, so to speak. that could be the downside to the upside surprise to the number. don? >> alison, stick around. we'll get back to you as well. >>> from wall street now to washington where the white house is keep iing a close eye on today's numbers. brianna keilar joins us now live. good morning, brianna. >> reporter: good morning to you, don. we're still awaiting reaction from the white house and also from congssional republicans. they've long said at the white house, take a look at the trend of these nuchls over the month. so this number, paired with the last couple of months on its face, they will say the trajectory looks good, obviously more needs to be done. maybe the president ca
taxes just because congress can't end this fiscal cliff fiasco. >> you might have misunderstood the question. what do you think the mom kz do? what do you think, you know, families can do or should be doing to try to help the situation, obviously, because you've got some people who argue, well, you know, maybe there ought to be major cuts when it comes to medicare or medicaid or reforming social security, that kind of thing? >> well, we absolutely 1150% are hearing from moms across the country that it is not the time to cut medicaid. it is not the time to cut medicare or social security. one in three kids are receiving their health care through medicaid, and so we don't want to see any kind of bargaining or putting on the table of anything that takes health care away from kids because, guess what, that does not help taxpayers in the long run. when we don't give kids the care they need, we end up autosing more taxpayer dollars in the long run to fix later health strobz. we heard stories from people like ann who shared her 4-year-old son has autism and he is getting help from medi
of the year to avoid the fiscal cliff, automatic federal spending cuts could impact the foot we eat. emily schmidt explains. >> preparing for holidays is a reminder of something else around the corner. >> i just can't imagine funding being cut at this point. it was be tragic. >> she is worried budget cuts would hurt food safety inspection. that's mattered to her since her twins her born in 1999. she and her babies got listeria poisoning. contaminated food sickens about 48 million a year. 3,000 die. so the fda and usda are charged with protecting the simply. an 8.2 budget cut translates to $157 million. there's no word exactly what cuts would mean to staffing. >> both fda and usda are stretched pretty thin when it comes to the activities they do. they need increased resources and not fewer. >> agencies always say they're stretched. >> dean clancy is with freedom works and says the cuts leave nothing to fear. >> arguing that getting spending under control endangers public health and safety is a really irresponsible scare tactic. especially when you realize that these aren't real cuts. these
the nation's fiscal cliff crisis. >> we wasted an enormous amount of time here, sparring back and forth in public. it's a good time to get serious. >> let's just go over the [ bleep ] cliff. because you know why? at least for a few seconds, it will feel like we're flying. >>> this morning, police are questioning a man in that deadly subway push. they say he has implicated himself in the crime. >>> duchess of cambridge is continuing to feel better. >> australian radio station was able to pose as the queen, get information on the phone about kate's health. >> want to see how her -- >> she is sleeping at the moment and she has had an uneventful night. >> mohamed morsi under siege after 100,000 protests in the streets. >>> l.a.'s mayor has announced an end to an eight-day strike at the largest port complex. >>> best man's friend is learning a new trick. how to drive a car. get off the road. >> three, two, one. >> god bless us, every one. >>> nine weeks, officially over. >> snooki wants to give baby advice to kate middleton. her number one advice, find out advice to kate middleton. her numbe
% as part of a larger fiscal cliff deal. in a conference call today, their chairman at the business roundtable said, some executives are unhappy that we want to even mention revenues or taxes but he said everybody's got to feel a little bit like they are getting nailed and then we will know if we've got a deal. white house officials met with this group and also helped them get to this place. they said, bottom line, they knew that they thought their prospects deal was grim and this was a step they had to take to help both sides come to a deal. >> maybe it will help because a lot of these guys are very, very influential. speaking of the fiscal cliff, jessica, what did the fed chairman ben bernanke say about these current negotiations? >> well, bernanke is the man credited with coining the term fiscal cliff. he did it back in february as part of testimony before congress. bernanke was speaking at a press conference today and he was asked two things. one, does he see impacts from the fiscal cliff, the lack of a deal, is it already rippling through the economy in? he said, yes. that's wh
view on immigration or on the fiscal cliff? they're both very important in terms of getting business moving. >> i think there's more after consensus on immigration than on the fiscal cliff. >> let's talk about taxing overseas profits only where they are earned. explain that. >> well, that's really something where the united states is an outlier and the argument here is bring them back where they're earned. at the moment the problem is american companies have lots of money sitting overseas because they don't want to bring it back and be taxed in the united states. so that is something that puts as one of his eight points because it is holding back investments by american companies. >> all right. the new issue of "the economist" is "the world in 2013." daniel franklin. thank you so much for being on the show this morning. stay with us. much more on "morning joe." ♪ ♪ mom? dad? guys? [ engine turns over ] [ engine revs ] ♪ he'll be fine. [ male announcer ] more people are leaving bmw, mercedes and lexus for audi than ever before. take advantage of exceptional values during the sea
's up to two men to try to keep america from going over the fiscal cliff. 25 days and counting from the massive tax hikes and spending cuts. congress breaking in a week for the holiday. so john boehner trying to simplify things. he's asking top democrats and republica republicans to step aside so he can negotiate with the president one-on-one. it seems to be a request that everyone was able to live with. brianna keilar is live for us at the white house. if this is the case that everybody has been cleared out of the room, does that surprise you? it seems to make sense to me. >> reporter: it's not surprising at all. this is what observers of this process thought would happen all along. ultimately this was a process that would come down to president obama and house speaker john boehner brokering a deal. very much the way you saw they attempted to do during the debt ceiling debacle last year. it simplifies the problem of less cooks in the kitchen. then they will have to sell it. president obama would have to bring in democrats. john boehner would have to bring in his republicans and mak
to the fiscal cliff and not one iota closer to a deal to avoid it. now, on january 1st, four weeks from today, automatic tax hikes and spending cuts kick in with potentially serious consequences for virtually every taxpayer in america. there has been zero progress on a deal, zero. keeping them honest though, the american people clearly want some sort of a compromise. polls show they want results but the two sides are still far apart on the issue at the heart of the debate, whether the wealthiest americans should pay more taxes than they do right now. the people you elected to get things done simply are not getting it done, not even close. but maybe we should not be surprised, because in a cnn/orc poll taken a few weeks ago, 67% said washington officials would behave like spoiled children in fiscal cliff discussions. only 28% said they would behave like responsible adults. with that in mind, here's what the key players, the grownups, have said in just the past 24 hours. listen. >> the math, it doesn't work. >> his proposal was so outlandish, i don't think we should go back to the table until h
speaker john boehner's plan to avoid the fiscal cliff. >> unfortunately the speaker's proposal right now is still out of balance. >> reporter: the speaker's plan would raise $800 billion in tax revenue. but does so without raising tax rates for top income earners. the president says that's unacceptable. >> we're going to have to see the rates on the top 2% go up. and we're not going to be able to get a deal without it. >> reporter: republicans, like rising star senator marco rubio, say raising taxes on the wealthy is the wrong approach. >> the tax increases he wants would fail to make even a small dent in the debt. it would hurt middle-class businesses and the people who work for them. >> reporter: so, that's the major holdup, taxes. republicans and democrats deeply divided. >> there's nothing going on privately that's not going on public. >> reporter: amidst the political posturing, there may actually be a chance for compromise on medicare. president obama says he's open to raising the age when seniors can start receiving benefits, from 65 to 67. according to one study, that would save
the fiscal cliff and with just 21 days left until the deadline, a new gallup poll shows most americans want congress to compromise on spending and tax cuts. 70% say republicans and democratic leaders should make a deal now, up eight points since last week. major garrett is at the white house covering the fiscal talks. good morning. >> reporter: good morning and good morning to our viewers out west. one thing has been agreed upon in the fiscal cliff talks, not to discuss the details. many look at this bipartisan silence and see an encouraging sign but white house and congressional sources tell me that while the atmosphere around these talks is positive between the president and speaker john boehner, when it gets to the underlying details, progress is maddeningly slow. president obama telephoned senate majority leader harry reid monday while rob nabors huddled for a second day in a row aide to speaker john boehner. no discernible progress toward breaking the fiscal cliff stalemate. mr. obama left that drama behind and told supporters in suburban detroit the fiscal cliff is serious business. >
over the fiscal cliff and then run into the debt limit in february. that would be a puriic victory. >> vus not goiit's just not goi happen. tell me, because you know these numbers better than anybody, other than people sitting in the white house that have looked at the very latest, but it seems like 37%. we're starting to hear that more, and both sides may coalesce around that eventually. let's say we change the rates to 35% and 37% and you eliminate deductions, not the home mortgage because we're not going to get that. we're probably not going to get charitable. can you say $1.2 trillion if that's where we compromise and new revenues. >> capital gains, dividends, estate. >> if you're more aggressive. >> about half theway. >> let's say you aggressively go on capital gains, dif evidends >> you start to get close. >> david ig nanatiuignatius, ar to have a deal? you know washington. >> my guess is we are going to have a deal just because the stars have now been in alignment. i've been struck by the way president obama has taken lead of his own party and himself been the negotiator, pu
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